Curse

waughzac · Jul 26, 2005, 03:26 PM // 15:26

E/N - Fire, Water, Blood

Went farming last night

Seemed like I killed pretty much every creature round Droknars and Decimated nearly the whole Crystal desert last night, trying to earn some cash...did not get one purple or gold item the whole time btw....and was starting to depair of ever earning any real money.

WHEN!!!! On a whim went to sardelac, traded the hundreds of tanned leather squares i had found in my travels with the crafter dude near the gates there and managed to sell them to the material trader in ascalon for 2pp for 10...more in 5 minutes than nearly 2 1/2 hours hardcore killing spree! Encouraged by this decimated Aslcalon, the breach, area outside Nolani.....got the basic crafting stuff and went on crafting runs...So there is still money to be made...just requires a little work....

That said, still P155ed that I did not get one decent item...

Melkor of ZoSo · Jul 26, 2005, 03:55 PM // 15:55

Well there are other things that an auto-detect could look for... Like what type of Armor... Past financial transactions... There could just be like... a backround check on each character before they enter a zone.

Memnon's Mentor · Jul 26, 2005, 04:08 PM // 16:08

What if he gets scammed, loses his armour pieces in a way? Ever been taught about Hiob?

Melkor of ZoSo · Jul 26, 2005, 04:14 PM // 16:14

Eh? Well if he HAD great Armor and lost it, then that's just his fault for not being careful with it.

Memnon's Mentor · Jul 26, 2005, 04:31 PM // 16:31

The only way to lower the prices of rare weapons is either to permit more drops of them, or to beef up collector's weapons. Either way it will add and substract to the game.

shadow_wolf323 · Jul 26, 2005, 05:22 PM // 17:22

/signed

I wasn't rich to begin with but when I did get 12k saved up I was happy.. until my last set of armor came along and I had to use All of it. (Mind you that part of it was supposed to be used to start new PvE characters) And now that I am out killing mobs to get my skill points, I am making very little money, just enough to buy the skills that I have left. With prices of items and materials being the way they are then players definately need their way of making income back.

boris · Jul 27, 2005, 01:24 AM // 01:24

the game has slowly become more and more tedious as Anet decides they want to try and force us into "teamwork" to get all of our stuff. this doesnt work you cant force people into anything it only makes it worse. everything you have done to try and get people to work together or try and help the economy has made things many times worse. collecters items are usualy crap and the ones i do want are nearly impossible to get out to. or find a group to go.

i will say this and i hope you take it to heart Anet, if you keep nerfing PVE loot drops you WILL lose a fair amount of your paying customers, i myself am getting fed up with the nerf fest and i have already ordered a different game were the devs care. would you like to keep giving me and many others a reason to quit playing?

xChaoSx · Jul 27, 2005, 02:08 AM // 02:08

ectos prices are a huge problem, which should have its own thread..and making money through playing the game you'll never make good money. Ive played through the game 3 times and i got 200k...but ive also won HOH 6-9 times and got most my cash from selling sigils, or items ive found usually for 1-3k max. Now someone who has never won HOH and plays the game normally i cannot see anyone having over 200k WITHOUT playing a ridiculious amount of time. The economy and money needs to be fixed..and with 10k+ ectos is virtually impossible for 95% of the population to get that armor..and thats a bit lame..though if i would have knew ectos would have gone up i could have bought my ectos at 3-4k back in the day..but i was like meh i'll find em myself...bad move for me

twicky_kid · Jul 27, 2005, 02:15 AM // 02:15

guildwars is kind of the opposite of team work. the mission req teamwork other than that i solo the rest of the game with pretty. the reason you aren't getting any drops is 1 you are useing henches or 2 you are in a party period. the more people the less chance you get a drop where as if you solo you 100% of the drops.

i get about 13-15k per hour using a method i've made. that is outside of UW and fissure. i can solo UW and make about 50-60k per hour from the ecto drops.

its not hard to make money. its hard to make the right char to do the runs.

twicky_kid · Jul 27, 2005, 02:20 AM // 02:20

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Originally Posted by xChaoSx

The economy and money needs to be fixed..and with 10k+ ectos is virtually impossible for 95% of the population to get that armor..and thats a bit lame..though if i would have knew ectos would have gone up i could have bought my ectos at 3-4k back in the day..but i was like meh i'll find em myself...bad move for me

who really cares. the armor doesn't give you any more def than droknars does. it just looks different, big deal. how about this why don't you save the money you were going to use on the fissure armor and save it till expansion when the def on armor is going to go up. then you can cry and moan when you can't afford that armor cuz you spent money on armor that doesn't give you an benefit.

Angryhob0z · Jul 27, 2005, 03:34 AM // 03:34

i think everyone here complaining about people buying the 15k armor doesnt understand that most people buy it so they can:

A) Look different than other players, thus allowing room for "character customization"
B) think they are better than everyone else for getting their 15k armor

now the latter is only small portion of the population, ive played through the game almost 3 times, and have only met one person that thought she was better than everyone else because she had died all of her characters 15k armors black and had black chaos axes and blah blah blah. she even thought she was such a good player that she could keep her entire team alive by herself (when she wasnt even a monk) without a rez, or rez sig? my response to her was, hey everyone, team up with such and such she'll use her 15k black armor to rez you! i realized she was just one of the dumbest players around.

^^^a little off topic, but to further prove my point.

after playing through 3 times i have met 1 person that thought they were better than everyone else. i have at least 6 people on my friends list that have one or more sets of 15k armor and when i ask them why they have it, they reply, because the armor looks different!

my mesmer played all the way through the game now, still has the same looking armor as the kind i bought in ascalon! frankly im tired of looking at the stupid armor!

i know what ive said does not apply to everyone, but it seems to me that the people that are whining and complaining about everyone"whining and complaining" about not being able to make 15k in an hour are jealous, and exaggerating the situation. NO ONE, as far as i have read through this thread has said anet sucks now i can only make 5k and hour instead of 20k an hour. everyone saying that anet has nerfed the game, is saying that it is almost too hard to make a decent amount of money to even get one piece of the fissure armor! (from what ive heard, one piece can cost 100k, maybe more)

Melkor of ZoSo · Jul 27, 2005, 03:39 AM // 03:39

I said it before and I'll say it again (Concerning Ecto and Shard prices).

There should be no supply and demand. It's freaking binary code. You can't run out of that. It's not real life... keep the fantasy aspect in. We have enough supply/demand to deal with with the Gas prices.

the bloodthirst · Jul 27, 2005, 04:08 AM // 04:08

/signed

i am fairly new to the game. i just reached 20 and i dont understand how you farm in this game. i got to droknars after ascending got my armor (well all but the head piece) and i am dead broke. I heard all this talk about farming and how it is a great way to make money. WRONG! all you do is waste your time if you try and farm. It costs me over 200g every time i want to buy a skill. I cant afford the price of skills rising with no source of income. All of the ppl who agree with Anet i dont think you have any room to talk. you have all prolly been playing this game for awhile so you have a solid base of money. you all say "Just pvp thats what the game was meant for. Skill not how long you play." well i pvp'd for almost 2 hours 2 day and you know what i got? a mere 500 faction. im not gonna pvp if it takes that long to gain faction. The skills i get with faction i cant even use with my pve character so what is the point. id rather farm which is far more enjoyable.

Oh and one more thing.....if we got money for quests i dont think we would have as big a problem.

brian blueflame · Jul 27, 2005, 06:18 AM // 06:18

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Originally Posted by xChaoSx

ectos prices are a huge problem, which should have its own thread..and making money through playing the game you'll never make good money. Ive played through the game 3 times and i got 200k...but ive also won HOH 6-9 times and got most my cash from selling sigils, or items ive found usually for 1-3k max. Now someone who has never won HOH and plays the game normally i cannot see anyone having over 200k WITHOUT playing a ridiculious amount of time. The economy and money needs to be fixed..and with 10k+ ectos is virtually impossible for 95% of the population to get that armor..and thats a bit lame..though if i would have knew ectos would have gone up i could have bought my ectos at 3-4k back in the day..but i was like meh i'll find em myself...bad move for me

i agree with ecto prices its insane...i have like 6 guildies helping me get ectos but we never get ecto drops....or any good drops i have gotten mabye 1 descent gold weapon...i had to farm for soo firken long to get my 15k...now fissure is my goal...i have beaten the game and been in fissure like 100+ times and UW at least 200+times and i have gotten 5 ectos by myself
and that sucks cuz i cant farm to buy them i get mabye 10k if i farm all day...thats ONE ecto ONE FIRKEN ECTO A DAY SUCKS

entropy · Jul 27, 2005, 06:49 AM // 06:49

5 ecto!?!?!?!? wow... do u go in 8 person groups? If you do then I would expect you to get 5 ecto. Since your a ele i would go with a 4-5 man smite group or 3 man if the people know what to do. One ele or warrior draws the fire and the monk prot bonds him. Then uses things like life bond/life barrier with balth spirit or essence bond to gain the energy back. if the ele or warrior knows to stay and take the hits and let the casters go after the smites/aataxes after they've engaged. Then a prot and heal monk would go to work. Soon after an extra nuker if u like uses things like meteor shower and other things. You will get wayy more ecto and things. First time i tried this i got a max dmg storm bow and an ecto. you Will get more.

Thanas · Jul 27, 2005, 10:10 AM // 10:10

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Originally Posted by PieXags

Anything becomes simple when you ignore every existing counter-point to your opinions mate, even when they've already been laid out for you multiple times.

I've read your arguments and they simply never stand. Yes I have simplified the economics of the game. However this is on some level the reality of the situation. It is one of the reasons Anet has nerfed excessive farming. Because it is counterproductive to the economy. They'd keep it in the game if it had no negative effects, but it does!!! Can you honestly not see that?

Thanas · Jul 27, 2005, 12:33 PM // 12:33

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Originally Posted by Satire Elexus

I've been playing GW's now for about 2 months nearly. I've well and trully finnished the game and been to UW and FoW a good amount of times. My gold is 13k. I dont agree with you that my attitude is bad. I think I've been playing the game long enough to have some kind of a reward. And to me, that is having nice shiny expensive armour. Mainly because I have nothing else to do in the game and I want something to aim for. But it's just not working. I created a new character about 4 days ago. I spent two days in pre-searing and did every quest I could. I came out with about 500g not 2.5k like you say you did. I dont think people want to have money straight away like you mentioned, but after the game has been finnished and untill the new missions come out, the players want something to do and aim for. A goal call it. But we CAN'T.

I came out of pre-searing with 4-5k!

Thanas · Jul 27, 2005, 12:40 PM // 12:40

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Originally Posted by brian blueflame

i agree with ecto prices its insane...i have like 6 guildies helping me get ectos but we never get ecto drops....or any good drops i have gotten mabye 1 descent gold weapon...i had to farm for soo firken long to get my 15k...now fissure is my goal...i have beaten the game and been in fissure like 100+ times and UW at least 200+times and i have gotten 5 ectos by myself
and that sucks cuz i cant farm to buy them i get mabye 10k if i farm all day...thats ONE ecto ONE FIRKEN ECTO A DAY SUCKS

The reason ectos are so pricey is because famers were willing to buy them at these prices and before Anet went anti farming, were able to. Before the clamp down on farming, farmers had money. Now they struggle! Farmers set the prices. Since no-one is buying them now, not even the farmers, Ecto should come down in price.

sparks · Jul 27, 2005, 12:42 PM // 12:42

/signed

hey I have posted about the noobs like me buying the game and finding out how disadvantaged I was compared to all the people who have been playing and already got great armor and weapons and such. in an email to anet about this they told me to take it to their forums they didn't care one bit about what I had to say on the subject.

SO I decided to hit them where it hurt...I started ad campaign to friends, family and everyone I could to NOT buy this game untill this was fixed..
SO FAR I have convinced 18 people NOT to buy this game.
I told their marketing department what I was doing and they told me if I put out anything that they felt was damaging to their business they would sue me.

WHAT A BUNCH OF A##HOLES...whoops 22 now and counting

just my opinion of them and their nerfs...
ever heard of beta testing and balance before selling something
oh I guess we get to pay you to beta test the damn thing.

sparks

Lord Dracnor · Jul 27, 2005, 12:42 PM // 12:42

I really hate it when people or ANet say "The game is about skill, not hours played."

Yeah, way to contradict yourselves. You gain skill by playing for a long time, the longer you play the more skilled you become, so the game IS about hours played. You can't just become "skilled" with only a few days gameplay behind you.

Also nerfing farming so much for fair players is only aiding the botting factories, those people are experts and can just find a new spot to farm much easier than normal players. And the more normal people who are denied farming, the more people who can't make money by themselves, so they turn to the bot factory companies who sell cash for RL money which creates more demand and success for the bot companies.

/signed